Another Great Idea by……

…….Jeff Vehige over at St. Peter Canisius Apostolate. Here are the details.

Thanks again, Jeff! This must be why you make the big bucks!    🙂


3 Responses

  1. Hi Tim,

    Check out also

    In Christ,


  2. timglass,

    I will take a shot at this one. I for one have little problem with people who profess to be of the catholic faith as long as they are believing in the basic foundations of Christ’s commands to love him and give your life to Him and no other God. If a person professing Catholicism is a devoted born again believer in Christ then their choice of how to follow Him is an issue to debate but not divide over. So far timglass your words have done more to bring us together.

    For me the greatest unity is with Christ Himself. He is the one I want to unify with, identify with, and spend eternity with. There is no greater unity than that of man with God. Jesus gives us that opportunity. My connection with God is to be a partaker of His divine nature,

    “Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” II Peter 1: 4.

    I love to read, reflect, pray, and read the Bible with Oswald Chambers as my partner.

    Here is what Oswald Chambers has to say about our relationship with God,

    “We are made partakers of the Divine nature through the promises; then we have to “manipulate” the Divine nature in our human nature by habits, and the first habit to form is the habit of realizing the provision God has made. “Oh, I can’t afford it,” we say – one of the worst lies is tucked up in that phrase. It is ungovernably bad taste to talk about money in the natural domain, and so it is spiritually, and yet we talk as if our Heavenly Father had cut us off with a shilling! We think it a sign of real modesty to say at the end of a day – “Oh, well, I have just got through, but it has been a severe tussle.” And all the Almighty God is ours in the Lord Jesus! And He will tax the last grain of sand and the remotest star to bless us if we will obey Him. What does it matter if external circumstances are hard? Why should they not be! If we give way to self-pity and indulge in the luxury of misery, we banish God’s riches from our own lives and hinder others from entering into His provision. No sin is worse than the sin of self-pity, because it obliterates God and puts self-interest upon the throne. It opens our mouths to spit out murmurings and our lives become craving spiritual sponges, there is nothing lovely or generous about them.

    When God is beginning to be satisfied with us He will impoverish everything in the nature of fictitious wealth, until we learn that all our fresh springs are in Him. If the majesty and grace and power of God are not being manifested in us (not to our consciousness), God holds us responsible. “God is able to make all grace abound,” then learn to lavish the grace of God on others. Be stamped with God’s nature, and His blessing will come through you all the time. ”

    We are not only “Partakers of His Divine Nature” but also “Partakers of His Sufferings”.

    Oswald Chambers once again,


    “Rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings.” 1 Peter 4:13

    If you are going to be used by God, He will take you through a multitude of experiences that are not meant for you at all, they are meant to make you useful in His hands, and to enable you to understand what transpires in other souls so that you will never be surprised at what you come across. Oh, I can’t deal with that person. Why not? God gave you ample opportunity to soak before Him on that line, and you barged off because it seemed stupid to spend time in that way.

    The sufferings of Christ are not those of ordinary men. He suffered “according to the will of God,” not from the point of view we suffer from as individuals. It is only when we are related to Jesus Christ that we can understand what God is after in His dealings with us. It is part of Christian culture to know what God’s aim is. In the history of the Christian Church the tendency has been to evade being identified with the sufferings of Jesus Christ; men have sought to procure the carrying out of God’s order by a short cut of their own. God’s way is always the way of suffering, the way of the “long, long trail.”

    Are we partakers of Christ’s sufferings? Are we prepared for God to stamp our personal ambitions right out? Are we prepared for God to destroy by transfiguration our individual determinations? It will not mean that we know exactly why God is taking us that way, that would make us spiritual prigs. We never realize at the time what God is putting us through; we go through it more or less misunderstandingly; then we come to a luminous place, and say – ‘ ‘Why, God has girded me, though I did not know it!”

    Oswald Chambers says it better than I can.

    God Bless,

  3. Thank you, riggword for your kind and thoughtful words.

    I have no problem with people’s faith traditions. My problem would be the people who profess a faith tradition, and then don’t live by what that tradition teaches.

    People like Pelosi, Kerry, Biden and Kennedy may call themselves “catholic”, but Catholic is not what they are!

    Much like Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton and all other Protestant liberals who call themselves “christian,” Christian they are not!

    I don’t understand why, anyone would identify themselves with something, and blatantly go against what it teaches!?! Denounce it, leave it, disceredit it, or even start another sect of it but, don’t stay in it. It only makes them look like fools.

    Having said that rigg, you’d be surprised at how little difference there is between orthodox Protestant Christianity and Catholic Christianity; afterall, where did the Protestant church come from anyway? 🙂

    I understand what you are so trying so nicely to say, I said it myself, before I converted to Catholicism.

    There will be some Catholics who are “saved”, just as there will be some Methodists, Baptists, Anglicans and Lutherans who will be “saved.”

    Catholics worship no other God, other than the Holy Trinity, Father, Son and, Holy Spirit, and have no other savior than Jesus Christ. We read and study the Bible, on our own and at the Mass, daily and weekly. We also understand that the Bible is God’s word and is inspired, inerrent, and infalible. And yes, we are “born again” of “water and the Spirit,” as Jesus tells Nicodemus, all must be to “enter the kingdom of God.” Of course, this is accompanied by faith which is given to us by grace.

    So yes! If these are the foundational issues of which you speak, and the command to love God….and love our neighbor, then we do have very little to divide us.

    And I would say, that it is a misunderstanding of Catholic teaching, that divides us, rather than actual Catholic teaching itself.

    All Christ’s blessings and peace be yours,

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